{"id":842,"date":"2007-08-05T22:50:01","date_gmt":"2007-08-05T22:50:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.briangreene.com\/bhg\/2007\/difficult-week-for-taoiseach-difficult-text-for-talkr-difficult-to-understand\/"},"modified":"2007-08-05T22:55:25","modified_gmt":"2007-08-05T22:55:25","slug":"difficult-week-for-taoiseach-difficult-text-for-talkr-difficult-to-understand","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/2007\/difficult-week-for-taoiseach-difficult-text-for-talkr-difficult-to-understand\/","title":{"rendered":"Difficult week for Taoiseach &#8211; Difficult text for talkr &#8211; Difficult to understand"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>confused? you will be. text from Irish Emigrant, this is a Brian Greene test post.<\/p>\n<p>Taoiseach Bertie Ahern had a  difficult week and all he could do was look on  from the sidelines. He was again the focus of  attention at the Mahon Tribunal, and to such an  extent that his barrister, Colm \u00d3 hOis\u00edn, felt  obliged to accuse tribunal barrister Des O&#8217;Neill  of &#8220;pushing a particular agenda&#8221; against his  client. This allegation upset Tribunal chairman  Judge Alan Mahon who told Mr \u00d3 hOis\u00edn to &#8220;be  careful about the words that you use because they  are particularly offensive to us&#8221;. Judge Gerald  Keys also intervened to say, &#8220;Offensive, and I reject them out of hand&#8221;.                  Earlier in the week, during  cross-examination by Mr O&#8217;Neill, AIB official Jim  McNamara confirmed that the Taoiseach had  contacted him to ask about details of  transactions given to the Tribunal. That allowed  Fine Gael spokesman Fergus O&#8217;Dowd to describe the  Taoiseach&#8217;s decision to contact a tribunal  witness as &#8220;bizarre&#8221;. A spokesman for the  Taoiseach responded by making the point that Mr  Ahern could not be expected to remember details  of lodgements and withdrawals which took place 12 to 13 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Two days later, after he had his  chance to cross-examine Mr McNamara, it was clear  that Mr \u00d3 hOis\u00edn thought Mr O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s question  was used simply to raise suspicions in the eyes  of the public. He argued that it was perfectly  reasonable for any client of a bank to discuss  details of his account with an official of the  bank. Mr O&#8217;Neill intervened to claim that the  significance of Mr Ahern&#8217;s contact with Mr  McNamara was to ask if the transactions involved  foreign currency. It was at this point the heated  exchanges between Mr \u00d3 hOis\u00edn and the tribunal judges took place.<\/p>\n<p>Much of the week was taken up  with the cross-examination of AIB officials about  different transactions. Mr O&#8217;Neill focused on how  these transactions might or might not have  included Sterling or dollar amounts and on how  they allegedly didn&#8217;t equate with Mr Ahern&#8217;s  explanation. It was all extremely complex and I  suspect there aren&#8217;t more than a handful of  people outside the tribunal who could explain  clearly the issues involved. That, of course,  doesn&#8217;t stop them having firm views on whether or  not Bertie Ahern is telling the truth.<\/p>\n<p>I am not one of that handful and  the more I look at the figures the more confused  I become. Even the journalists attending the  Tribunal are confused or, if their reports are  accurate, it is the barristers questioning the bank officials who are confused.<\/p>\n<p>Despite my confusion I&#8217;ll  mention two of the transactions although,  according to one account it is the same  transaction described on different days.<\/p>\n<p>The AIB&#8217;s Philip Murphy was  questioned about a lodgement of \u00a324,838.49 which  Mr Ahern recollected as comprising \u00a316,500 and  approximately Stg\u00a38,000. It was argued by Henry  Murphy SC for the Tribunal that there was no  Sterling exchange rate that would support this.  The witness was pressed by the barrister, &#8220;It  doesn&#8217;t add up, isn&#8217;t that right Mr Murphy?&#8221; to  which Mr Murphy replied &#8220;Yes&#8221;. I did some  calculations based on the Central Bank exchange  rate at the time and came close, but counsel for  the Tribunal had been looking for a round  Sterling amount and whether this meant excluding  coins or a multiple of \u00a3100 is not clear.<\/p>\n<p>On Friday it was again Mr  O&#8217;Neill SC who was cross-examining an AIB  official, this time Rosemary Murtagh. He claimed  that from the bank&#8217;s records Celia Larkin could  not have lodged Stg\u00a330k on December 5, 1994. He  noted that the total amount of foreign currencies  purchased by the O&#8217;Connell Street Branch that day  was \u00a329,254.97 and argued this could equate to  exactly \u20ac45,000. If the Irish Times reported the  subsequent exchanges accurately, he then seemed  to defeat his argument by accepting that some of  the foreign currency was Sterling and that the  balance was in other currencies, and he then  managed to get Ms Murtagh to agree that this  balance of $28,969.34 was &#8220;as a matter of  probability if not certainty\u2026. $45,000\u2033. When  Mr \u00d3 hOis\u00edn cross-examined Ms Murtagh she also  agreed that it was possible to carry out a  mathematical exercise which would prove that  \u00a329,254.97 had to be Sterling and not dollars.<\/p>\n<p>It is worth noting that no one  has admitted giving the Taoiseach $45k, no one  has accused anyone else of giving the Taoiseach  $45k, Mr Ahern insists that he never had $45k and  the bank has no record of receiving $45k from Mr  Ahern or anyone else on the day in question.<\/p>\n<p>Two morning sessions of the  Mahon Tribunal had to be postponed due to the  illness of key witness Tom Gilmartin. The  questioning of AIB officials took longer than  anticipated and that resulted in the postponement  of the scheduled appearances of the Taoiseach,  his former partner, Celia Larkin, and the  Manchester-based business man Michael Wall, from  whom Mr Ahern bought his Drumcondra home. The  Tribunal is now adjourned for the summer and will resume in September.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>confused? you will be. text from Irish Emigrant, this is a Brian Greene test post. Taoiseach Bertie Ahern had a difficult week and all he could do was look on from the sidelines. He was again the focus of attention at the Mahon Tribunal, and to such an extent that his barrister, Colm \u00d3 hOis\u00edn,&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/2007\/difficult-week-for-taoiseach-difficult-text-for-talkr-difficult-to-understand\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Difficult week for Taoiseach &#8211; Difficult text for talkr &#8211; Difficult to understand<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[14,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-842","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-podcasting","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/842","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=842"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/842\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=842"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=842"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/briangreene.com\/bhg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=842"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}